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Witam mam problem z swiezo kupionym autem.Auto ma moim zdaniem malo mocy i duzo pali srednie spalanie 22litry przy jezdzie 100km/h i utrzymywaniu tej predkosci pali okolo 16.
Dlatego potrzebuje koledzy informacji jak sprawdzic sondy lambda , przeplywomierz pedal gazu i co jeszcze trzeba by sprawdzic.
Gruszka kolektora zmienia dlugosc przy gazowaniu pozdrawiam

Na początek zakup interfejsu , pomiary 002 032 033 093 ,adaptacja przepustnicy ,jaki masz LPG ? / tu też zakup interfejsu .
ps. prawdopodobnie LPG będzie przyczyną

Jeszcze jolego jakbys podal mi jakie maja tam byc wartosci i jak zaadptowac przepustnice

[ Dodano: 2016-07-14, 09:52 ]
Pomoże ktoś ? Założyłem nowe sondy getz. Bylem u gazownika ustawił i zmienił filtry a auto pali 15l w trasie juz rozpędzony z stała predkoscia przy jeździe 100/h średnie spalanie w mieszanym 25l

To rzeczywiste spalanie czy tak FIS pokazuje?

Niestety rzeczywiste tak bym się tym nie przejmował

Czyli tak jak Manfredjg mówił - zrób logi i będzie wiadomo czego szukać. Możesz też sprawdzić czy heble Tobie nie tra albo ręczny nie jest przyblokowany.

Heble nie trzymają na luzie się toczy bardzo dlugo. Chce zrobić logi tylko bym musiał wiedzieć jaki blok i jakie są wartości graniczne . Zauważyłem wgl ze czasami jak jadę po równym np 110 to raz pali 15 a raz 10

Takie wahania to nic strasznego, u mnie potrafi skakać do 26l ale średnie rzeczywiste wychodzi ok 13l/100km przy LPG. Zrób pomiary bloków 002 032 033 093

Katy do sprawdzenia też czy nie są zapchane bo one też będą powodować taki problem ze spalaniem. Sondy najlepiej w IC Boscha płaciłem po rabatach ok 150 zł. U mnie było widać że jedna powoli już zaczynała zdychać ale jeszcze nie dawała błędu na kompa.
U mnie spalanie trasa Polska-Norge równe 10 litrów tylko benzynki (auto pełne plus trumna na dachu przedział prędkości 120-140) po mieście wciąga 13.5-15

a jak jedziesz w trasie i puścisz gaz to jakie spalanie Ci pokazuje??

Logi zrobiłem komu mógłbym je podesłać do sprawdzenia ? Katalizatorów nie ma od kiedy kupiłem są rury puste . Jak puszcze gaz i auto toczy się na biegu czyli hamuje silnikiem ? Jeśli o to chodzi to 0.0

Na forum masz dokładnie opisane jak wrzucić logi. Jak je zapodasz to napewno ktoś z grona Forumowiczów podpowie Ci czy wsio bangla (działa:). Ja się aż tak na tym nie znam więc inni Ci pomogą

Friday,15,July,2016,22:14:30
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Friday,15,July,2016,22:16:33
3B0 907 552 P ,,2.4L V6/5V 0003,

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i ponownie na nowych sondach bledy 17536 p1128 35-10 i 35-00
17538 p1130

W aucie jak narazie ustawiłem rozrząd na łańcuszku był przestawiony i ustawiłem rozrząd na wałkach Sondy nowe getz . Nowy filtr powietrza . Gaz ustawiony i zmienione filtry .

wrzuć te logi na vaglog a nie wklejasz tutaj

masz za ubogą mieszankę na jednym i drugim banku - jeśli te błędy występują tylko na LPG to gaz nie jest ustawiony , masz interfejs do gazu?

zresztą z tego loga choć się dwoi i troi w oczach można wywnioskować że przy przyspieszaniu korekta leci na +25 czyli jest ubogo , czasy wtrysku u mnie np. nie są większe niż 14 ms na pełnym przyspieszeniu , u Ciebie 18 ms bo ecu wydłuża czasy

tu masz mój log przepływki - http://vaglog.pl/log_268038.html

To było na lpg ale zaraz wsiądę w autko i zrobię na benzynce . Chociaż jak bylem u gazownika to mówił ze mapy się pokrywały nawet przed strojeniem ponownym oprócz tego zmienił filtry. Zaraz wrzucę logi na benzynie na tą stronę

[ Dodano: 2016-07-17, 16:11 ]
Tutaj załączam logi po wyłączeniu gazu przejechaniu 10km skasowaniu błędów i dalszej jeździe na 3 biegu na benzynie http://vaglog.pl/log_270941.html