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Wypadanie załonu ANK 340km

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Quattro88
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Wypadanie załonu ANK 340km

Post autor: Quattro88 » 27 cze 2018, 19:45

Hej :) Jest to mój pierwszy post i chciałbym przywitać wszystkich. Mam pewien problem z S6 C5 ANK. Jakiś czas temu podmieniłem ze znajomym cewki i przepływomierz bo jemu kulało auto. Od tamtej pory u mnie zaczęły się problemy. Mianowicie wypadanie zapłonów na cylindrze 6. Na początku reagowało na gaz z opóźnieniem, potem lekko trzęsło na wolnych aż w końcu wypadał zapłon i się zaczęło. Po odpaleniu auto pracuje równo ale jak złapie pewną temperaturę i wkręci się je na obroty a głownie podczas jazdy (przy obciążeniu) po kilkuset metach chodziło jak traktor, ewidentnie nie chodziło na ktorys jeden lub wiecej cylindrow. Podmieniałem cewki miejscami i sytuacja była podobna. Świece są nowe. Ewidentnie z lewego wydechu kaszle, (strona kierowcy) coś jest nie tak. Poza tym wyrzuciło błąd sondy Bank 2 S1, i tylnych Bank 2 S2, Bank 1 S2. Tylne już kiedyś zmieniałem bo były te błędy jak kupiłem auto ale po wymianie na nieoryginalne zamienniki Check nadal się świecił, one są korekcyjne więc olałem sprawę. Po usunięciu błędów jest ok, ale po przekroczeniu pewnych obrotów lub podczas jazdy robi się to samo. Wymieniłem cewkę na 6cylindrze na nową i auto zaczęło pracować na wolnych praktycznie idealnie na zimnym i ciepłym. Natomiast podczas jazdy znowu był problem z jedynym cylindrem i nie dało się jechać na niskich obrotach, po przekroczeniu okolo 2,5-3tyś obr. i pełnym gazie auto nagle przyspieszało. Wymieniłem sondę B2 S1 na Boscha i było trochę lepiej. Ale jak się rozgrzał to znowu podobna sytuacja. Błędu tej sondy nie wyświetlało. Kupiłem używany przepływomierz (podobno w pełni sprawny) i zamontowałem. Pokasowałem błędy. Odpaliłem auto i było dobrze, zrobiłem tak około 4km, po czym znowu auto zaczęło chodzić jak traktor ale było czuć, że jest sporo lepiej. Na LPG i PB jest to samo. W końcu po powrocie odpiąłem przepływomierz i teraz auto pracuje praktycznie idealnie, tyle, że do około 2500 - 3tyś obrotów szarpie co jakiś czas. Doradźcie coś bo nie mam pomysłu. Kwestia przepływomierza czy coś innego?

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Post autor: zwonko » 27 cze 2018, 20:59

Przepłwyomierz sprawdź logiem dynamicznym. Do tego dobrze obejrzeć kable.

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Post autor: Quattro88 » 28 cze 2018, 00:36

Mam VCDS lite, napiszesz coś więcej? Dopiero od niedawna mam kabel więc uczę się dopiero ;)

Kable są mega dobrze zaizolowane, wydaje mi się, że z nimi wszystko ok.

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Post autor: zwonko » 29 cze 2018, 11:30

Trzeba zrobić logi dynamiczne. Jak je robić: wybierasz grupy, wciskasz LOG, mając 1500RPM na 3cim biegu, wciskasz gaz do oporu, krecisz do 6200RPM z butem w podłodze, stopujesz logowanie. Grupy jakie masz zlogować na pewno znajdziesz po tematach odnośnie tego silnika. To 2001r więc pewnie 002+033, 003+020, ale dla pewności sprawdź po innych tematach.
Oprócz tego zrób log statyczny grupy 033 (lub adekwatnie innej odnosnie korekt) z przełaczaniem paliw. Na postoju wciskasz LOG, logujesz 60s na LPG, wciskasz MARK i przelaczasz na Pb na 60s i tak w kółko tak żeby log miał 4 minuty

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Post autor: Quattro88 » 02 sie 2018, 09:44

Długo to trwało bo niestety nie miałem auta.
Logi robiłem pierwszy raz więc proszę o wyrozumiałość :D

Dodam, ze ustawienie rozrządu jak pamiętam -11, -7. Nawet raz było -13, -8.
Nastawniki na postoju w granicach 0, 0 lub +/- 1, do -22, -22/23 pod obciążeniem.

002+033:

,Group A:,'002,,,,Group B:,'033,,,,Group C:, Not Running
,,RPM,Load,Inj. On Time,Mass Flow,,Lambda,Voltage,Lambda,Voltage,,,,,
,TIME,,,,,TIME,,,,,TIME,,,,
Marker,STAMP, /min,%, ms, g/s,STAMP,%, V,%, V,STAMP,,,,
,0.77,2040,32.3,5.20,29.56,0.35,9.4,0.605,-25.0,0.825,,,,,
,1.76,2080,51.9,7.28,47.22,1.29,7.8,0.685,-25.0,0.885,,,,,
,2.66,2240,66.2,9.36,70.08,2.16,-4.7,0.710,-25.0,0.990,,,,,
,3.46,2360,68.4,9.88,77.47,3.06,0.0,0.740,-25.0,1.075,,,,,
,4.26,2560,70.7,12.48,82.75,3.86,0.8,0.775,0.0,1.075,,,,,
,5.16,2800,71.4,13.52,92.53,4.66,0.0,0.805,0.0,1.085,,,,,
,5.96,3000,69.2,11.96,97.72,5.56,0.0,0.815,0.0,1.085,,,,,
,6.76,3200,71.4,12.48,101.56,6.36,2.3,0.670,0.0,1.085,,,,,
,7.67,3400,75.9,11.44,119.83,7.16,7.8,0.730,-15.6,1.085,,,,,
,8.46,3600,78.2,11.96,125.36,8.06,3.9,0.130,-25.0,1.085,,,,,
,9.26,3800,76.7,14.04,135.81,8.86,0.8,0.740,0.0,1.085,,,,,
,10.16,4040,76.7,13.52,146.86,9.66,3.1,0.740,0.0,1.085,,,,,
,10.97,4240,75.9,13.52,144.11,10.57,7.0,0.185,0.0,1.085,,,,,
,11.82,4520,76.7,13.52,158.53,11.39,3.9,0.665,0.0,1.085,,,,,
,12.67,4720,75.9,13.52,161.06,12.22,3.9,0.745,0.0,1.085,,,,,
,13.55,4920,72.9,13.00,156.17,13.09,3.9,0.705,0.0,1.085,,,,,
,14.45,5120,74.4,13.00,170.56,13.98,-0.8,0.650,0.0,1.085,,,,,
,15.36,5320,74.4,12.48,174.89,14.90,5.5,0.650,0.0,1.085,,,,,
,16.29,5520,72.2,12.48,171.47,15.81,0.0,0.075,0.0,1.085,,,,,
,17.25,5680,72.9,12.48,182.92,16.77,0.0,0.155,0.0,1.085,,,,,
,18.20,5880,71.4,12.48,190.53,17.72,0.0,0.345,0.0,1.085,,,,,
,19.19,5960,18.0,2.60,37.44,18.70,1.6,0.160,0.0,1.085,,,,,
,20.17,5760,11.3,2.08,29.44,19.69,0.0,0.035,0.0,0.860,,,,,
,21.13,5440,10.5,2.08,26.36,20.65,0.0,0.040,0.0,0.835,,,,,
,22.05,5000,13.5,0.00,35.31,21.60,0.0,0.045,0.0,0.820,,,,,
,22.93,4640,14.3,0.00,29.94,22.49,0.0,0.000,0.0,0.845,,,,,
,23.78,4280,14.3,0.00,28.03,23.36,0.0,0.000,0.0,0.815,,,,,
,24.59,4000,14.3,0.00,26.17,24.19,0.0,0.000,0.0,0.790,,,,,
,25.39,3760,14.3,0.00,24.47,24.99,0.0,0.000,0.0,0.785,,,,,
,26.29,3440,14.3,0.00,22.22,25.79,0.0,0.000,0.0,0.755,,,,,
,27.09,3240,14.3,0.00,22.28,26.69,0.0,0.000,0.0,0.740,,,,,
,27.89,3120,14.3,0.00,20.89,27.49,0.0,0.000,0.0,0.725,,,,,
,28.79,3000,14.3,0.00,20.06,28.29,0.0,0.000,0.0,0.720,,,,,
,29.59,2880,14.3,0.00,19.08,29.19,0.0,0.000,0.0,0.705,,,,,
,30.39,2760,14.3,0.00,18.56,29.99,0.0,0.000,0.0,0.695,,,,,
,31.29,2640,14.3,0.00,17.11,30.79,0.0,0.000,0.0,0.695,,,,,

003+020:

,Group A:,'003,,,,Group B:,'020,,,,Group C:, Not Running
,,RPM,Mass Flow,Load,Ign. Timing,,Idle Stabilization,Idle Stabilization,Idle Stabilization,Idle Stabilization,,,,,
,TIME,,,,,TIME,,,,,TIME,,,,
Marker,STAMP, /min, g/s,%, °BTDC,STAMP, CF, CF, CF, CF,STAMP,,,,
,0.50,1440,36.14,12.9,18.0,0.02,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,
,1.31,1640,49.08,52.5,15.8,0.90,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,
,2.20,2040,56.39,55.3,19.5,1.79,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,
,3.00,2320,74.19,58.4,19.5,2.61,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,
,3.80,2600,86.36,62.7,19.5,3.40,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,
,4.60,3080,96.00,100.0,18.8,4.20,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,
,5.42,3600,128.14,100.0,18.8,5.00,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,
,6.22,4120,141.39,100.0,20.3,5.82,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,
,7.03,4640,158.22,100.0,21.0,6.62,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,
,7.92,5040,155.42,100.0,26.3,7.47,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,
,8.84,5560,172.94,100.0,26.3,8.36,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,
,9.82,6040,173.44,99.6,28.5,9.31,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,
,10.80,6120,31.83,10.2,36.0,10.30,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,
,11.79,5840,29.92,9.4,15.0,11.30,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,
,12.75,5320,26.72,8.6,12.8,12.27,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,
,13.65,4760,32.75,10.2,10.5,13.20,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,
,14.50,4080,27.31,8.6,6.0,14.10,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,
,15.30,3720,24.83,7.8,4.5,14.90,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,
,16.10,3480,22.89,7.5,3.0,15.70,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,
,16.90,3280,21.08,6.7,2.3,16.50,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,
,17.70,3040,20.56,6.7,1.5,17.30,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,
,18.49,2880,18.28,5.9,0.8,18.11,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,
,19.29,2680,17.69,5.9,0.0,18.89,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,,,,,

033 - około 4minut po +/-60sek LPG/PB:

,Group A:,'033,,,,Group B:, Not Running,,,,Group C:, Not Running
,,Lambda,Voltage,Lambda,Voltage,,,,,,,,,,
,TIME,,,,,TIME,,,,,TIME,,,,
Marker,STAMP,%, V,%, V,STAMP,,,,,STAMP,,,,
,0.02,3.1,0.685,18.8,0.450,,,,,,,,,,
,0.40,2.3,0.140,21.9,0.410,,,,,,,,,,
,0.80,5.5,0.065,20.3,0.450,,,,,,,,,,
,1.31,6.3,0.110,22.7,0.405,,,,,,,,,,
,1.70,4.7,0.720,21.1,0.475,,,,,,,,,,
,2.10,3.1,0.695,19.5,0.485,,,,,,,,,,
,2.50,2.3,0.290,0.0,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,2.90,1.6,0.075,0.0,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,3.30,2.3,0.665,0.8,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,3.70,1.6,0.710,2.3,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,4.10,2.3,0.095,3.1,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,4.50,3.1,0.065,3.9,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,4.90,4.7,0.065,5.5,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,5.30,5.5,0.085,6.3,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,5.70,3.9,0.110,7.8,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,6.10,5.5,0.085,8.6,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,6.60,7.0,0.070,7.0,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,7.00,6.3,0.645,9.4,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,7.40,5.5,0.685,10.2,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,7.80,7.0,0.105,11.7,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,8.20,7.8,0.145,12.5,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,8.60,5.5,0.130,10.2,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,9.10,8.6,0.085,13.3,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,9.50,7.0,0.655,14.1,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,9.90,6.3,0.680,15.6,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,10.30,7.0,0.075,16.4,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,10.70,7.8,0.080,15.6,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,11.10,9.4,0.240,17.2,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,11.50,7.0,0.695,18.0,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,11.91,6.3,0.100,18.8,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,12.31,8.6,0.075,20.3,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,12.71,9.4,0.240,19.5,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,13.11,7.0,0.705,20.3,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,13.51,6.3,0.675,21.9,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,13.91,7.8,0.095,22.7,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,14.31,6.3,0.635,23.4,0.125,,,,,,,,,,
,14.71,5.5,0.115,21.1,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,15.11,8.6,0.090,24.2,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,15.51,6.3,0.725,22.7,0.470,,,,,,,,,,
,15.91,5.5,0.710,21.1,0.485,,,,,,,,,,
,16.31,4.7,0.125,23.4,0.005,,,,,,,,,,
,16.70,7.0,0.090,24.2,0.435,,,,,,,,,,
,17.10,5.5,0.690,21.9,0.470,,,,,,,,,,
,17.50,3.9,0.465,21.1,0.445,,,,,,,,,,
,17.90,6.3,0.080,22.7,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,18.30,7.8,0.105,24.2,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,18.70,6.3,0.705,21.9,0.490,,,,,,,,,,
,19.10,4.7,0.705,21.1,0.465,,,,,,,,,,
,19.50,3.9,0.645,22.7,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,19.90,5.5,0.070,24.2,0.375,,,,,,,,,,
,20.30,6.3,0.070,25.0,0.410,,,,,,,,,,
,20.70,7.8,0.065,21.9,0.445,,,,,,,,,,
,21.10,8.6,0.100,25.0,0.410,,,,,,,,,,
,21.50,7.8,0.650,22.7,0.465,,,,,,,,,,
,21.90,7.0,0.700,21.1,0.455,,,,,,,,,,
,22.30,5.5,0.665,21.9,0.435,,,,,,,,,,
,22.70,4.7,0.270,21.1,0.445,,,,,,,,,,
,23.11,7.8,0.100,20.3,0.450,,,,,,,,,,
,23.51,6.3,0.690,21.9,0.400,,,,,,,,,,
,24.00,4.7,0.710,19.5,0.475,,,,,,,,,,
,24.40,3.9,0.675,21.1,0.410,,,,,,,,,,
,24.80,5.5,0.085,20.3,0.440,,,,,,,,,,
,25.20,6.3,0.155,19.5,0.475,,,,,,,,,,
,25.60,3.9,0.500,20.3,0.440,,,,,,,,,,
,26.01,3.1,0.520,21.9,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,26.40,2.3,0.625,22.7,0.425,,,,,,,,,,
,26.81,3.9,0.085,20.3,0.450,,,,,,,,,,
,27.21,5.5,0.080,21.9,0.420,,,,,,,,,,
,27.61,3.9,0.665,22.7,0.110,,,,,,,,,,
,28.01,3.1,0.620,21.1,0.455,,,,,,,,,,
,28.41,2.3,0.320,21.9,0.430,,,,,,,,,,
,28.81,4.7,0.070,21.1,0.440,,,,,,,,,,
,29.21,6.3,0.090,20.3,0.460,,,,,,,,,,
,29.59,7.0,0.155,21.9,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,29.99,4.7,0.710,23.4,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,30.40,3.9,0.705,22.7,0.440,,,,,,,,,,
,30.80,5.5,0.080,21.1,0.450,,,,,,,,,,
,31.31,7.0,0.085,23.4,0.430,,,,,,,,,,
,31.71,7.8,0.075,22.7,0.435,,,,,,,,,,
,32.09,7.0,0.680,24.2,0.425,,,,,,,,,,
,32.49,5.5,0.730,21.9,1.085,,,,,,,,,,
,32.89,4.7,0.710,20.3,0.440,,,,,,,,,,
,33.30,3.9,0.115,23.4,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,33.70,6.3,0.105,24.2,0.410,,,,,,,,,,
,34.10,3.9,0.485,21.9,0.465,,,,,,,,,,
,34.50,3.1,0.660,21.1,0.470,,,,,,,,,,
,34.90,4.7,0.065,21.9,0.410,,,,,,,,,,
,35.30,5.5,0.080,23.4,0.415,,,,,,,,,,
,35.70,7.0,0.110,22.7,0.435,,,,,,,,,,
,36.10,4.7,0.675,23.4,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,36.50,5.5,0.090,22.7,0.410,,,,,,,,,,
,36.90,7.0,0.075,21.9,0.455,,,,,,,,,,
,37.30,7.8,0.095,23.4,0.405,,,,,,,,,,
,37.70,9.4,0.115,21.1,0.460,,,,,,,,,,
,38.10,6.3,0.725,20.3,0.455,,,,,,,,,,
,38.50,5.5,0.710,19.5,1.085,,,,,,,,,,
,38.90,4.7,0.685,21.9,0.350,,,,,,,,,,
,39.40,4.7,0.235,19.5,0.440,,,,,,,,,,
,39.80,6.3,0.080,22.7,0.195,,,,,,,,,,
,40.20,5.5,0.450,23.4,0.425,,,,,,,,,,
,40.60,4.7,0.650,21.9,0.450,,,,,,,,,,
,41.00,3.1,0.200,22.7,0.435,,,,,,,,,,
,41.40,6.3,0.090,23.4,0.410,,,,,,,,,,
,41.90,3.9,0.675,21.1,0.455,,,,,,,,,,
,42.30,3.1,0.565,22.7,0.415,,,,,,,,,,
,42.70,5.5,0.100,21.1,0.410,,,,,,,,,,
,43.10,6.3,0.220,20.3,0.455,,,,,,,,,,
,43.50,7.8,0.115,20.3,0.445,,,,,,,,,,
,43.90,5.5,0.685,19.5,0.475,,,,,,,,,,
,44.40,3.9,0.710,21.1,0.355,,,,,,,,,,
,44.80,3.1,0.700,18.8,0.425,,,,,,,,,,
,45.20,2.3,0.370,21.1,0.425,,,,,,,,,,
,45.60,4.7,0.070,20.3,0.410,,,,,,,,,,
,46.00,5.5,0.080,21.9,0.000,,,,,,,,,,
,46.40,7.0,0.100,22.7,0.395,,,,,,,,,,
,46.80,5.5,0.670,21.1,0.440,,,,,,,,,,
,47.20,3.9,0.710,23.4,0.075,,,,,,,,,,
,47.60,5.5,0.280,22.7,0.440,,,,,,,,,,
,48.10,6.3,0.130,22.7,0.415,,,,,,,,,,
,48.50,3.9,0.705,24.2,0.430,,,,,,,,,,
,48.90,3.1,0.700,23.4,0.305,,,,,,,,,,
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Post autor: zwonko » 02 sie 2018, 10:08

Łoj dużo sie tu dzieje. Przepłwyka dużo za mało pokazuje. S1 na B2 pokazuje nierealne wartości, właściwie wg niej to paliwo się tam po prostu leje ciurkiem, z tym że w ogóle nie powinna pokazać więcej niż 1V raczej nawet nie ma takiej "elektrycznej" możliwości. Rozrząd też jeśli jest jak mówisz to kiepsko....
Log dynamiczny 002+033 robi się na dwóch paliwach (nie napisałem Ci). Do tego logi najlepiej wrzucić na strony do tego przeznaczone jak np vaglogi.pl
Zamień przepływomierz i ponów log 002+033 dynamiczny na obu paliwach. Potem dobrze by było obejrzeć okablowanie S1B2 i jak nie to podmienić miejscami.

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Post autor: Quattro88 » 03 sie 2018, 23:51

Właśnie, tylko jaki powód może być, że tam są takie ilości paliwa, albo takie wskazania sondy.. Ale jeśli strzela w wydech to chyba widocznie coś jest na rzeczy z tą duża dawką paliwa, tylko dlaczego..

Jutro zrobię logi na drugim przepływomierzu i obu paliwach 002 + 033.
Jeśli coś jeszcze zrobić, jakieś logi to napiszcie od razu porobię wszystko

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Post autor: zwonko » 04 sie 2018, 21:06

zrób na starej przepływce może jest lepsza. Dodatkowo proponuje żebyś sprawdził czy czasem lpg Ci nie puszcza. Moze dlatego takie wskazania sondy. Zakreć gaz na bulti włacz jeszcze na gazie niech ywpali resztki z przewodów (pochodzi na wolnych) i wtedy 3ci log na Pb.

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Post autor: Quattro88 » 05 sie 2018, 21:01

Ok, jutro zrobię i wkleję logi jak piszesz. Mam jeszcze pytanie co do zmiennych faz. To normalne, że działają od około 2000 do około 5tyś obr/min a potem się wyłączają? Tak ma być?

Przepływomierz widać ładnie pokazuje 258 to raczej git, na około 325koni.

Poniżej log dla przykładu, ten który wczesniej wrzuciłem w poście:
http://vaglogi.pl/log-090_093_002_ehe8r98.html

Z tego wykresu, sugerując się innym wywnioskowałem, że przepływomierz jak i napinacze działają prawidłowo. Jedyne co to rozrząd ustawiony do niczego... Mam rację?

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Post autor: zwonko » 06 sie 2018, 20:50

duży input lag bo 3 grupy naraz. Generalnie, zmienne fazy wyłaczają się przy pewnym zakresie. Wg mnie wygląda to ok. Warto sprawdzić logi innych człowieków:
http://vaglogi.pl/logs/search?component ... +++G++0003
http://vaglogi.pl/logs/search?part_code=4D0+907+559+A
http://log.malonetuning.com/search?part ... %20559%20A
Przepływ wg mnie jest maławy, ale tu też input lag utrudnia ocenę.
Rozrzad jak sam zauważyłeś do D. Nie mam aż takiej wiedzy ale wydaje mi się że to ustawienie wpłynie również na przepływ.

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Post autor: Quattro88 » 06 sie 2018, 22:21

Co to Input lag? Spowolnienie wytworzone przez ilość logów jednocześnie?

Poniżej logi z dziś:

Sama benzyna, zakręcony LPG:
http://vaglogi.pl/log-002_033_093_07klg.html

Sama PB, odkręcony LPG:
http://vaglogi.pl/log-002_033_093_hmWaAf.html

Na LPG:
http://vaglogi.pl/log-002_033_093_c4uljh2.html

Dłuższy log z jazdy na LPG:
http://vaglogi.pl/log-002_033_093_91ps5G2.html


Auto o dziwo pracowało poprawnie, przyśpieszało dosyć dynamicznie, nawet osiągnąłem 190km/h bez większego problemu. Wypadania zapłonów nie zaobserwowałem, równa praca silnika, nie strzelał z wydechu, nie bujało budą na żadnym paliwie.

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Post autor: zwonko » 07 sie 2018, 11:10

Quattro88 pisze:Co to Input lag? Spowolnienie wytworzone przez ilość logów jednocześnie?
tak. Odczyt jest stały, ale jak odczytuje 3 grupy to pomiedzy odczytem pierwszym grupy A a odczytem drugim grupy A jest 3xczas odczytu. Dlatego zaleca się maksymalnei 2 grupy na raz.
Quattro88 pisze:Auto o dziwo pracowało poprawnie, przyśpieszało dosyć dynamicznie, nawet osiągnąłem 190km/h bez większego problemu.
pewnie dlatego że przepływka lepsza niż poprzednia

Wskazania sondy na drugim banku na każdym paliwie są z D. proponuje zrobić rozrząd a potem się jej przyjrzeć...

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Post autor: Quattro88 » 07 sie 2018, 11:45

Przepływka właśnie ta sama. Nie zmieniałem jej jednak.

Właśnie szukam jakiegoś normalnego serwisu gdzie mi to ogarną w Lubelskim.

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Post autor: zwonko » 07 sie 2018, 15:36

To czemu pokazuje więcej niż w pierwszych logach??

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Post autor: Quattro88 » 07 sie 2018, 20:13

Nie mam pojęcia. Zauważyłem, że jeden pin lekko odstaje, i podpiąłem ją ponownie. Może dlatego teraz pokazuje inaczej. W każdym razie jest ta sama cały czas.

Czy po logach można wykluczyć instalację gazową czy nadal nie jest wiadome czy to nie przyczyna LPG lub osprzętu od LPG?

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