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[a6 c5] dławi się, gaśnie podczas jazdy, nie zawsze odpala
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anaid13 


Model: A6 C5
Nadwozie: Limuzyna
Zasilanie: Benzyna+LPG
Silnik: 2.4 165KM
Napęd: FWD
Rok: 1998
Skrzynia: Manual
Dołączyła: 13 Cze 2010
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Skąd: Ełk
Wysłany: 2010-06-13, 21:57   [a6 c5] dławi się, gaśnie podczas jazdy, nie zawsze odpala

Zaczne od początku może tu jest przyczyna
Jakieś 1,5 roku zakupiłam audi a6 2.4 w benzynie..chodził jak marzenie ..jedyny feler to, że wskazówka benzyny szybko spadała ) I padła decyzja o LPG. Mamy gaz od roku I tu zaczeła się górka.
Samochód tracił swoją moc ( to chyba jest normalne), często pojawiały się problemy z obrotami..strasznie skakały..byłam u gazownika i podkańczał do kompa ustawiał i przez jaki czas było ok…ale to się powtarzało.
Potem zaczął się palić jednocześnie wykrzyknik, olej i abs..wskazywało to na sterownik co z czasem potwierdzili mechanicy…sterownik został odłączony i tak przymierzam się do wysłania go przez allegro, ale dużo osób odradza..OK z brakiem abs da się jakoś jeździć..ale ostatnio pojawił się inny problem a mianowicie..samochód szarpał podczas jazdy na każdym biegu tak do 3000 tys obrotów..po 3000 przestawał. Szarpanie z czasem było bardzo uciążliwe..do tego doszło to iż po odpaleniu potrafił po kilku sekundach zgasnąć i aby odpalić ponownie trzeba było trochę go ,,popiłowac,, aż załapał. To nic po przejechaniu niedługiego odcinka drogi samochód po prostu gasł podczas jazdy..i potem znów był problem z odpaleniem..dodam jeszcze, że wcześniej tylko szarpał na gazie ..na benzynie chodził ok. < ale gazownik powiedział, że to nie wina instalacji tylko świec> więc świece zostały wymienione i nic ..dalej tak samo. Szarpie, gaśnie i na gazie i na benzynie.
Brat podłączył po vaga i wyszło, że to może być czujnik temp. Płynu chłodniczego..dodatkowo wyskoczył błąd sondy lambdy obu B1S1, B2S1…po wykasowaniu błędu wyskakiwały obie sondy - not activity. Czy zachowaniu samochodu to wina tych sond?? Proszę o pomoc bo już ręce rozkładam…

[ Dodano: 2010-06-13, 22:36 ]
nikt nie może mi pomóc :(((
Ostatnio zmieniony przez anaid13 2010-06-15, 19:33, w całości zmieniany 2 razy  
 
 
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anaid13 


Model: A6 C5
Nadwozie: Limuzyna
Zasilanie: Benzyna+LPG
Silnik: 2.4 165KM
Napęd: FWD
Rok: 1998
Skrzynia: Manual
Dołączyła: 13 Cze 2010
Posty: 3
Skąd: Ełk
Wysłany: 2010-06-15, 19:24   

Za błędy z góry przepraszam ..jestem babką która nie za bardzo się orientuje :))

[ Dodano: 2010-06-15, 19:37 ]
jesli chodzi o instalację to z tego co wyczytałam z dokumetów a nie wiele wyczytałam to jest to AGC i przeglądająć forum przeczytałam, że to badziew..
Wracając do problemu autka..to miałam tez słaby akumulator i po naładowaniu chodzi lepiej juz nie szarpie tylko przy przełączeniu na gaz strasznie się dławi, że nie można jechać...powedzcie mi czy to wina gazu czy tak jak vag wskazał 2 sondy padły??
błędy poprawiłam w temacie, ale nie wiem czy o to chodziło
 
 
fassi1 


Model: Inne
Nadwozie: Limuzyna
Zasilanie: Benzyna+LPG
Silnik: Inny
Napęd: Quattro
Rok: 1999
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Imię: Krzysztof
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Dołączył: 23 Gru 2007
Posty: 1965
Skąd: Luton/UK
Wysłany: 2010-06-16, 01:20   

Witam.
Po pierwsze to musisz zmienić gazownika, z tego co opisujesz to ten za bardzo nie ma pojęcia jak się za to zabrać.
Po drugie proszę podać pełny kod numerowy błędów jakie pokazuje vag wraz z opisem.
Po za tym sondy lambda można sprawdzić w vagu w blokach pomiarowych.
Jeśli brat ma trochę pojęcia to może to sam zrobić. Sondy lambda powinny oscylować między 0.1V a 1V a wykres powinien wyglądać jak sinusoida. Wykres sond lambda można sprawdzić w vagu używając vagscop, należy przeczytać instrukcję vaga.
Oprócz tego radzę skasować błędy i pojeździć parę dni (max tydzień) na benzynie i potem sprawdzić czy błędy powróciły.
Jeśli sondy lambda są padnięte to mogą dziać się różne rzeczy ale trzeba być pewnym że są one padnięte.
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anaid13 


Model: A6 C5
Nadwozie: Limuzyna
Zasilanie: Benzyna+LPG
Silnik: 2.4 165KM
Napęd: FWD
Rok: 1998
Skrzynia: Manual
Dołączyła: 13 Cze 2010
Posty: 3
Skąd: Ełk
Wysłany: 2010-06-16, 07:21   

Bardzo dziękuje za odpowiedzi. Co do błędów to za pierwszym razem wyskoczyło ich sporo, ale po skasowaniu zostały tylko sondy

16518 Oxygen (Lambda) sensor B1S1 No activity
16538 Oxygen (Lambda) sensor B2S1 No activity

Pomiar też był robiony, zamieszczam go ale nie wiem czy będzie czytelny

Sunday,13,June,2010,18:48:41
4B0 907 552 F ,,,

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[ Dodano: 2010-06-18, 08:44 ]
chyba jest problem z odczytaniem :(( te odczyty skaczą aż do -21 - to chyba jednak sondy??

[ Dodano: 2010-06-21, 13:28 ]
To jednak były sondy ..po wymianie samochód chodzi super, ale..zawsze jest to ale :)) ale jak się przerzuca na gaz to zaczyna szarpać i gaśnie...przy odpalaniu na gazie też jest problem.. Czyli też z pewnością wina gazu..jak myślicie??? czy tego czujnika od temp. płynu chłodniczego...chociaż i na benzynie byłyby wtedy problemy a ich nie ma
 
 
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To i ja się podłącze pod temat. 2.8 193KM i LPG. Niby wszystko ładnie pięknie, ale czasem są problemy takiego typu jak dziś. Odpalam normalnie jeżdżę jeżdżę, samochód ma 90st itp. Potem zgasiłem go. Za pół h odpaliłem i wszystko elegancko. Znowu pojeździłem. Zgasiłem znowu. Ale teraz już odpalanie nie było takie łatwe. Odpalam go, silnik zaskakuje, wiadomo obroty lecą do 1000-1100 i potem opadają do standardowych 800. Tylko że u mnie jest tak, rosną, opadają, i tak opadają że auto gaśnie. Aby nie zgasło trzeba przytrzymać trochę gaz i jest ok. Dodam że odpalam na Pb. Po odpaleniu od razu obroty strasznie wachlują 800-400. Po przejechaniu kilku metrów już jest ok. O co chodzi? Przejmować się czy po prostu jakiś taki wybryk. Dodatkowo ostatnio miałem problem z wysprzęglaniem. Jadę sobie 90km/h i musiałem hamować. Wcisnąłem sprzęgło i znowu ten sam efekt. Obroty zaczęły spadać i zamiast spaść do 600 i odbić do jałowych 800 to auto zgasło.. :roll:
Jakieś pomysły?
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Jasne , ale najpierw napisz jaka masz instalację ( reduktor , elektronika , wtryskiwacze ) to będzie prościej i konkretniej .
 
 
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No ale co ma instalacja gazowa do tego? Startuje na Pb. Gaz w ogóle wyłączyłem. Problemy dotyczą ogólnie Pb. Może sondy? Chociaż to by pokazywało coś w trakcie regulowania gazu w serwisie...
Instalacja to Stag 300 reduktor diego Gold.
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Witam !
Z tego co kolego wyjasniles to wynika ze masz uszkodzony wtrysk gazu. Mialem identyczny problem. Uszkodzily mi sie 2 wtryskiwacze i samochod nie chodzil na 2 cylindry. Mozecie sobie wyobrazic jaki byl komfort jazdy na lpg. Mozesz to latwo sprawdzic. Odpal samochod jak juz zacznie chodzic na gazie to go zgas i przyloz ucho do kolektorow ssacych. jezeli bedziesz slyszal przeplyw gazu to na 100% wtrysk. Jezeli chcesz sie dowiedziec ktory to po kolei odkrecaj wezyki od wtryskow i zobaczysz z ktorego leci. Ten jest wtedy na 100% do wymiany. Jesli masz malo km zrobionych na tych wtriskiwaczach ( srednia zywotnosc 100 tys km) to znaczy ze tankowales bardzo zanieczyszczony gaz.. Ja mialem to samo i od tamtej pory nie tankuje na dziwnych cpn. W srodku wtrysku jest uszczelka . Na cpn z gazem ( tych dziwnych) mieszaja gaz z jakims srodkiem ktory ja rozpuszcza. Jezeli chcesz to pisz dam Ci namiary na goscia ktory zajmuje sie regeneracja. Moich niestety nie dalo sie uratowac ale w serwisie jeden wtrysk to koszt 280-300 zl jesli chodzi o brc pomaranczowe a u niego kupilem po 210 zl za sztuke :) Pozdrawiam Michal

[ Dodano: 2011-02-04, 18:19 ]
Wybacz kolego nie doczytalem ze na benzynie chodzi tak samo.. U mnie dzialy sie podobne rzeczy (w audi a3) i winna byla sonda oraz czujnik hala :)
 
 
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No u mnie sprawa już rozwiązana. Wtryski były do regeneracji. Po tym zabiegu pojechałem do pewnego magika z lpg-forum i zrobił mi całą nową mapę gazu i Pb, bo stara była rozjechana jak stara prostytutka. Poustawiał wszystkie inne czynniki i na razie jest ok. Zobaczymy jutro po nocy ^^
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fassi1, Siemka jestem nowy na forum i tak widze ze masz pojecie i pomagasz chlopaka z instalacja LPG mam problem i czy jest mozliwosc jak bym napisal co sie dzieje to bys Mi pomogl? bo juz dlugo sie z tym mecze a Gazownicy to same partacze nic nie wiedza :| Pozdrawiam
 
 
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Wencol napisał/a:
fassi1, Siemka jestem nowy na forum i tak widze ze masz pojecie i pomagasz chlopaka z instalacja LPG mam problem i czy jest mozliwosc jak bym napisal co sie dzieje to bys Mi pomogl? bo juz dlugo sie z tym mecze a Gazownicy to same partacze nic nie wiedza :| Pozdrawiam


na forum jest sporo osób posiadających wiedzę ( nie ujmując oczywiście nic koledze fassi1, bo to jedna z osób z największą wiedzą o lpg), to forum po to jest aby pomagać, pisz co się dzieje to na pewno ktoś pomoże. użyj też oczywiście szukajki bo działa całkiem sprawnie a większość problemów na pewno była już omawiana
 
 
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Witam wszystkich :)
Mam Mały problem z moja A6c5 na LPG ;)
Wiec tak instalacja Stag 300-8 z 2009 roku wtryski magic jet(nie wiem jakie dysze sa) i reduktor kme gold.
Auto zostalo zakupione w 2013 roku padly wtryski i reduktor i zostaly zamontowane nowe wtryski HANA 2000 ZIELONE w miejsce starych wtryskow i nowy reduktor KME GOLD zrobione moze 15tys Km i od tamtej pory chodzi zle . Problem polega na tym, że po odpaleniu auta osiagnie 40stopni przelaczy na gaz i zaczyna sie dlawienie jak wcisne pedal delikatnie to obroty ida do gory ale jak wcisne go gwaltownie to obroty spadaja i dopiero sie podnosza czasem potrafi nawet zgasnąć, w czasie jazdy to samo jak wcisne delikatnie pedal gazu jest ok ale jak puszcze szybko gaz to czuc jak by sie dlawil a jak wcisne gwaltownie pedal gazu to obroty gwaltownie spadaja i dopiero rosna dopiero przy 70 stopniach chodzi wszystko idealnie nic sie nie dlawi, wszystko chodzi jak na bezynie, kalibracja zrobiona zadnych bledow na bezynie wszystko smiga, przepustnica zostala przeczyszczona. Mam interfejs do mojego staga i program AC mam wykres jak chodzi na gazie jak na bezynie tylko nie moge go dodac do zalacznika bo to plik osc :( [/scroll][/code]
 
 
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Wysłany: 2014-11-25, 19:14   

To przypadkiem nie jest problem tzw. zimnego VAG? Czyli w okresie rozgrzewanie sterownik benzyny ma takie program czasów wtrysku którego sterownik LPG nie jest w stanie odzwierciedlić , stąd zalewanie gazem i dławienie. W zakładkach staga są jakieś opcje obcinania dotrysków , można korektę po temperaturze zrobić itd. ale pewno w 100% kłopotu nie zlikwiduje :)
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